tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post3867631674396035994..comments2023-10-25T01:09:45.555+00:00Comments on Graffoto Blog: Banksy vs Robbo WRH, WD - checkmateHowAboutNohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17452817169484997948noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-63137500713871035872010-11-15T16:25:48.095+00:002010-11-15T16:25:48.095+00:00Banksy has before and after photo's of the pie...Banksy has before and after photo's of the piece in question on his site that clearly shows it was a conservation effort... using his extablished fame to draw attention to, and hence preserve, graffiti history.<br /><br />...or what would have been preserved... but I can't think of a more fitting way for it all to have gone down. It is merely paint on a public wall, it's all fair game if you ask me (so don't)jiowfojieoijhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12923437151000619932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-13971430241047685512010-08-08T21:01:01.419+00:002010-08-08T21:01:01.419+00:00I can only tell you about the graff scene in New y...I can only tell you about the graff scene in New york back in the day. We revered older writers and the idea of going over a piece five years old ( let alone 25 years )<br />done by a respected writer would be viewed as the ultimate toy move. The rest of the argument is moot.<br /><br />Chris Pape / FREEDOMFREEDOMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14529337203226473532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-36289099533018929892010-05-24T09:03:49.736+00:002010-05-24T09:03:49.736+00:00It would have been a stronger response to repaint ...It would have been a stronger response to repaint the original style in shape and colour than any "re-arrangement". It stays for 25 years, it will last for ever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-3920210373696238892010-05-22T13:00:41.351+00:002010-05-22T13:00:41.351+00:00As for the "Banksy is a sell out" argume...As for the "Banksy is a sell out" argument. His stencils were around for years until the mainstream picked up on them. He's refused to work for corporations ( unlike many traditional graffiti artists & other high profile stencil artists...& "faux" stencil artist Shepard Fairey, save your bile for him & his corporate art ) & you have no idea what he does with the money he makes from the sale of his work.<br /><br />If someone is stupid enough to pay £300,000 for something that took 1 hour & a few quid to make, how is that Banksy's "fault"? The joke's not on him. <br /><br />No doubt the people who slag banksy off for making money would kiss the arse of any millionaire rapper who trades off demeaning women, demonising homosexuals & promoting greed & materialism as the highest concerns. <br /><br />The real problem is the inability of many "proper" graffiti artists to recognise stencil work as a separate form distinct from aerosol work. Their idiotic & snobbish attitude ( "stencils are for toys", etc. ) betrays a real lack of intelligence & understanding. There has of course always been a snobbery running right the way through modern graffiti...the snobbery that says "I can spray my paint where I want". It's not rebellion, it's not art...it's the whimper of the person on the street with no voice.<br /><br />There's only one place left for graffiti to go once it's left the street...that place is "elsewhere", meaning galleries, coffee shops, bars, lounge walls & ebay. If people can make money from selling their art...good luck to them. If you're not interested in making money from it, why should it bother you if others are?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-14995126955013385932010-05-22T12:30:24.036+00:002010-05-22T12:30:24.036+00:00Graffiti is not supposed to last. Most graffiti ge...Graffiti is not supposed to last. Most graffiti gets removed. Graffiti artists are showing their true colours by calling Banksy a "toy" etc. It's mindless macho "back in the day" bullshit. <br /><br />It's common practice to go over other's work. Just because Banksy got famous & wealthy, the anonymous "hardcore writers" whinge like rappers. So he was influenced by Blek...what graffiti artist wasn't influenced by another? At least Banksy's work says something ( or at least did until the mainstream media latched onto him ). <br /><br />It's laughable to read the comments...as if Banksy had desecrated this piece...do these people go on pilgrimages to see it? It's spray paint on a wall in the middle of nowhere. If the person who sprayed it all those years ago is so small minded & bitter to be bothered about this...I suggest he & all the "writers" who are "declaring war" on Banksy look beyond their own miniscule contributions to the world & grow up a little.<br /><br />Get mad over something that matters...instead of arguing like children because someone tread on your £200 Nike trainers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-55874489549907755042010-05-20T11:40:10.154+00:002010-05-20T11:40:10.154+00:00I can see where you are coming from, but lets face...I can see where you are coming from, but lets face it, not really similar, Cap just got up over everyone! - this is far more personal and gone ove a historic early piece of UK graff history.HowAboutNohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17452817169484997948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-56695176961266503532010-05-19T17:13:53.352+00:002010-05-19T17:13:53.352+00:00this reminds me of the Cap over Seen business...this reminds me of the Cap over Seen business...EdMasternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-50915876001704603272010-03-11T03:28:39.904+00:002010-03-11T03:28:39.904+00:00I love this work. The fact that it has now been pa...I love this work. The fact that it has now been painted by two artists only doubles interest in the workptoonehttp://ptoone.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-14909141949007048172010-02-07T13:47:59.247+00:002010-02-07T13:47:59.247+00:00banksy tries to fight against consumer culture whe...banksy tries to fight against consumer culture when he sells his shit for loads of money. fucking hypocrite. robbo's a true legend, fighting against pricks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-23930215639696441652010-01-18T20:50:47.094+00:002010-01-18T20:50:47.094+00:00Hi Dave
Thats an interesting take on the Banksy P...Hi Dave<br /><br />Thats an interesting take on the Banksy PR machine. To paraphrase Warhol, everyone will get their 15 minutes of being mistaken for Banksy, I'm sure you must have been asked if that's your name.<br /><br />Graffoto got there ahead of you with the awareness that it was willingly being manipulated:<br /> "From Banky it seems almost everything is surrounded by some PR, though with the street stuff he doesn't need to arrange the PR, there are lots of mugs (like us) that do it for him; Robbo - PR? nah, just doing graff the way it always has been meant to be done;"<br /><br />from http://www.flickr.com/photos/nolionsinengland/4280795888/<br /><br />Peace man, hope you visit London soon and brighten a wall somewhere, though don't bother looking for that Wellington Row spot, it has been demolished.NoLionsInEnglandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12769028506475253334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-84519054184771046532010-01-18T19:38:52.561+00:002010-01-18T19:38:52.561+00:00I would have liked Banksy's piece more if he&#...I would have liked Banksy's piece more if he'd bothered to pay attention when he'd got the decorators in at his mansion - you hang wallpaper from the TOP of the wall, not the bottom (hence the term "hang")<br /><br />it's that one little essential detail which ruins this piece for me<br /><br />and the whole Banksy v Robbo thing. Robbo has just become another pawn in the Banksy pr machine. He doesn't give a shit if he gets painted over, but blogs like this who DO care give him more of the attention he needs to keep him on his throne and keep the prices up. And it's free pr, unlike when he pays to put up scaffolding to paint a wall, then sends a faked photo of him painting to the papers.<br /><br />suckers!!!DAVE THE CHIMPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05658848237911562692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-64137309508508253962010-01-16T13:03:36.051+00:002010-01-16T13:03:36.051+00:00Robbo 'touched up' one of Bansky's as ...<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/45883295@N04/4270832119/in/photostream/" rel="nofollow">Robbo 'touched up' one of Bansky's as of late.</a> I think he could have done a neater/more creative job. Seems like Bansky has a more creative approach when messing with Robbo's.<br /><br />You shouldn't take things too seriously,<br /> It''s pretty fucking hilarious.Kat A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08233929685205162317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-913035805143785402010-01-15T09:22:15.255+00:002010-01-15T09:22:15.255+00:00see what I mean?see what I mean?NoLionsInEnglandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12769028506475253334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-2728557412313581362010-01-13T21:21:08.369+00:002010-01-13T21:21:08.369+00:00My whole take on the style of the piece was that R...My whole take on the style of the piece was that Robbo showed it as much respect/estimated input as he thought Banksy had given his older piece in the first place?<br /><br />For a silver dub, which is all it is, it's fairly decent.HowAboutNohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17452817169484997948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-3065316656822624882010-01-13T20:10:27.206+00:002010-01-13T20:10:27.206+00:00The BANKSY piece was innovative and did a fine job...The BANKSY piece was innovative and did a fine job of promoting an ancient piece, that no-one ever saw. Now it is splashed all over the web. This was intentional, I'm sure. If it was meant to me a slap, the man would have been putting wallpaper OVER the piece, not using the piece AS the wallpaper. Plus, the "reply" doesn't look to be done by ROBBO. The style and technique is WEAK, and fonts don't even match. This was most likely done by a BANKSY hater, NOT ROBBO himself.<br />Props to BANKSY. And to all you haters, keep hatin.robscobithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15775038612090726293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-77836768602195328592010-01-13T19:31:53.157+00:002010-01-13T19:31:53.157+00:00I like the piece of Banksy.
I like the old Robbo t...I like the piece of Banksy.<br />I like the old Robbo too.<br /><br />Sounds like a tribute but an unauthorized one. Robbo had a good reaction : answering by painting is more interesting than by violence.<br /><br />What a pitty Banksy did'nt asked first. Cause it could have been a old/new piece to remember.demodetouslesjourshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17639189237425884181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-62227890977825784002010-01-13T18:43:19.538+00:002010-01-13T18:43:19.538+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Mike Hammeckerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05935295473989271822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-7746126851022299692010-01-07T12:37:33.811+00:002010-01-07T12:37:33.811+00:00Just to be clear and to avoid causing offence, fai...Just to be clear and to avoid causing offence, fair comment includes anything that corrects something we've written, anything which tells Graffoto it is wrong or even tells Graffoto it is stupid. The only stuff that gets deleted is the pure crap like the blizzard of comments in Chinese characters, the bot comments from other blog providers saying our blog would be even more brilliant if they hosted it and spurious and irrelevant links that go to wierd webpages that have nothing to with graff or street art.NoLionsInEnglandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12769028506475253334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-68499875362333580202010-01-06T23:42:36.577+00:002010-01-06T23:42:36.577+00:00fair comment always welcome, the only one deleted ...fair comment always welcome, the only one deleted looked like spam or some other form of bollocks. I can't recall the specifics but it had nothing to do with the subject in hand. What's your problem?NoLionsInEnglandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12769028506475253334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-40009608044413982112010-01-06T01:43:47.706+00:002010-01-06T01:43:47.706+00:00Seems you can't leave fair comment on this blo...Seems you can't leave fair comment on this blog - hypocrisy, much?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-45808718206939033422010-01-01T15:18:48.125+00:002010-01-01T15:18:48.125+00:00Nobody like Banksy. Robbo can be put l' spirit...Nobody like Banksy. Robbo can be put l' spirit in peace because it will not never have l' authority and the world-wide respect of an absolute genius like Banksy. No style, no respect.PICCHUhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02300665911224644119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-28628682140759151282009-12-31T03:21:19.418+00:002009-12-31T03:21:19.418+00:00Doesn't seem very smart by Robbo, now he's...Doesn't seem very smart by Robbo, now he's completely obliterated his 'precious' original work. Cut off your nose to spite your face there.<br /><br />I think it's ridiculous for any graffiti to be considered permanent. Might head down to the Canal myself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-84038310581829382482009-12-30T09:40:27.761+00:002009-12-30T09:40:27.761+00:00TASH - much love, thanks for the propsTASH - much love, thanks for the propsNoLionsInEnglandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12769028506475253334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-75179901534109141572009-12-30T02:25:19.821+00:002009-12-30T02:25:19.821+00:00I always knew Banksy was a toy!!!
Hey lads, I did ...I always knew Banksy was a toy!!!<br />Hey lads, I did a link to your site on our magazine Hell Yeah's site.<br />www.hellyeahmag.com/blog<br /><br />Peace,<br />TASH ONETASHhttp://www.hellyeahmag.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2372208458817389437.post-1405662308211497302009-12-29T15:35:39.866+00:002009-12-29T15:35:39.866+00:00Hi, I’m a journalist working for El Mundo, here in...Hi, I’m a journalist working for El Mundo, here in Spain. We would like to use your pictures of Banksy and Robbo graffiti in a story for our website about the issue.<br />Is it possible, please?<br />Thanks in advance! (My e-mail is isabel.espino at elmundo.es)Isabelnoreply@blogger.com